- How do you date old horse shoes?
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On the left hand side there are three nail holes, all with protuding iron nail heads in place, and positioned opposite, on the broken branch, are two broadly rectanganular nail holes, now filled by corrossion. So the shoe had a 3: Wednesday 24th October Last updated: Wednesday 24th October Spatial data recorded. This findspot is known as 'Kempley', grid reference and parish protected.
Published Medieval iron horseshoe of Clark's Type 3, dated in London to c. Tuesday 9th October Last updated: Friday 19th October Spatial data recorded. Awaiting validation An incomplete iron possible horseshoe of post-Medieval or Modern date, about AD - Most of one side is missing. Corrosion obscures any nail holes or fuller, and there is a suggestion of a toe clip, but it is not complete. There is no calkin on the surviving terminal, which is pointed. The web of the horseshoe is uniformally narrow at about 18mm wide.
With the lack of evidence for attachmnt, it is possible that this object is part of another artefact such as a chain link, hook or farm machinery part. The object is mm long, 98mm wide and 12mm thick. Thursday 2nd August Last updated: Wednesday 15th August Spatial data recorded. Awaiting validation Medieval to post medieval iron horseshoe, mm in length, 30mm wide and 7mm thick with a weight of grams. The object is U shaped with a rectangular cross section. It is formed of a wide flat sheet with a V shaped central hole. It is incomplete missing one end, but the intact end is sub triangular in form and along its outer curved side are the traces of four rectangular nail holes.
The object dates to Tuesday 24th July Last updated: Monday 20th August Spatial data recorded. Awaiting validation A corroded Post Medieval iron 'key-hole' type horseshoe, probably dating to c.
How do you date old horse shoes?
The horseshoe is U-shaped in plan and slightly bevelled in cross section with a key-hole shaped perforation in the centre. The arms curve inwards and end in sub-rectangular terminals to create the key-hole shape. Only one nail hole is visible through the corrosion, as well as the remains of a corroded rivet. Tuesday 17th July Last updated: Monday 24th September Spatial data recorded. Awaiting validation A complete, although heavily corroded, medieval iron horseshoe c.
The outer edge curves round from one plain heel to a calkin on the other. The inner profile mirrors the outer edge, with the web being a similar width, The number and location of the nail holes is difficult to determine due to the amount of corrosion. The horseshoe fits into Clark Type 4. See Clark , The length of the shoe is roughly average for Type 4, the width is at the wider end of T… Created on: Tuesday 10th July Last updated: Monday 15th October Spatial data recorded.
Awaiting validation Two Post-Medieval iron 'key-hole' type horseshoes, probably dating to c. The larger object is U-shaped in plan and is slighly bevelled in cross section, the brances curve inwards slightly and end in rectangular terminals at the heel, with no calkins, creating a key-hole shaped aperture.
Two nail holes are filled in at the toe and one is clear. Tuesday 3rd July Last updated: Monday 17th December Spatial data recorded.
how to date horseshoes
Awaiting validation A complete iron horse shoe of late medieval to early post-medieval date c. In overall shape, it matches the late medieval form described by Clark , p. Four nails are in situ in sequence on the branch of the shoe possibly more are present on the quarter but due to corrosion of the plate surface they are not distinct. There is a calkin on the right heel, none seems to be present on the left. All I'm trying to do is explain just how impossible it is to pin a date on a horse shoe, because it's possible, even probable that the same style or type that is supposed to be old is still used today.
The anatomy of a horses foot, and the problem solving needed to keep a horse sound is the same now as years ago. That said, hand forged, hot punched nail holes definitely have the odds in favor of being older, and depending on relics found with them, they could possibly be dated way back. Manufactured shoes with a fuller crease for the nail heads are much more problematic.
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The first patent for a horseshoe manufacturing machine was in Bronze horse shoes were in use years ago. A civil war horse-shoer would be very familiar with the shoes we use today. Davers , waaayupnorth and Alan Payne like this. From the pics, I can't see indication of nail holes.
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Originally Posted by BosnMate They both look to be fairly modern. I really appreciate it. Here is a photo before they where cleaned: Originally Posted by TomPA Horseshoes can be a little tough to date, as there were few changes over the years. The problem with your dating is that probably 25 or 30 years ago I made horseshoes that weren't fullered. I haven't got any idea what the shoers today are doing, but i had a forge, was trained in a horseshoeing school, and if the horse required it, I made the shoe from bar stock and punched the holes.
Not too long ago I watched a female horse shoer build a hand made horse shoe and she punched the nail holes. Saying that you can date the shoe because the heels are closer together on the older shoes rings false to also. Unless evolution, which I doubt, in the last couple of hundred years has altered the shape of the horses foot, then the shoes had to be made to fit the foot. A horse's foot that is shaped exactly the same today as years ago. Unlike mules that have very straight sides on their feet, front and back, horses have different shaped feet front and back.
Front shoes are more rounded, back shoes are more pointed. The photos in this post are both a front and a back shoe. Shoes made with narrow heels that didn't fit the hoof wall would cause the horse to come lame, so your theory of narrow heels on older shoes doesn't hold water, they didn't ride lame horses. Also, horses are individuals, no two are the same, so today if a horse has narrow heels on the front foot, then that is how the shoe is fit. Also, if on the front foot, a raggedy heal on the shoe, or one that extends beyond the heel of the foot causes two problems.
First, the horse can step on the front shoe with his hind foot, and either trip or pull the shoe, or two, the poorly fit shoe will cause a shoe boil. That's a sore way up on the leg near the horses body, because when the animal lies down, the front foot is tucked up near the body and the poorly fit shoe rubs a sore. Also front feet tend to have narrower heels than the rear foot, so those shoes tend to be wider at the heels than the front, and the shoe can extend a bit behind the heel without any problems.
Over the centuries more study has gone into horses feet than probably anything else.
It's like the nursery rhyme that starts, "For want of a nail, the shoe was lost," and ends, "For want or the war the nation was lost, and all for the want of a horse shoe nail. They are very much the same as what we used when I was a KID. Can you date a horse shoe? If so, what would you estimate for this one? I'm still working to get a sense of a timeline for the activities in my woods Attachment Attachment Attachment I can't bring myself to be snarky since you posted the thread.
Ever notice irons how iron will rust at a very fast rate once its dug up? That because its exposed to more oxygen. Buried, there is far less oxygen to speed the iron decay process. It may be older that one might think. A lot of mine looked very similar as far as decay to yours.
This is helpful, thanks. Mine does look more modern, maybe late 19c.
Bowwinkles, early s is also a strong possibility, most of the shotgun headstamps I find date to that era. I'm guessing it's from then, rather than the earlier shipbuilding traffic. The holes on that shoe towards, The outer edge, at an equal distance is a good indication Of it to be a Phoenix show. Now Thier are close too 30 horse shoe companies now days.
Sent from my E using Tapatalk I don't think its handforged for some reason, it just seems too uniform, symmetrical, perfect. The nails still in some of the holes are square machine cut nails, I realized.
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It was likely made in the 30's or 40's. And though Phoenix was the biggest and one of the oldest companies, they were by no means the only company. Yours does appear to be machine made, but to say that it's "too uniform, symmetrical, perfect" tells me that you've never seen a shoeing contest before. And it's not symmetrical. I can tell by looking at it that its the left hind shoe. Regardless of how it's made, it still has to be shaped to fit the horse's foot, and that screws with symmetry.
The heel caulks, toe grab, and size indicate that it's from a pulling horse. Probably a light draft or "chunk" half draft. Handmade shoes are a lot harder to date. Slow Down, and you'll achieve a more harmonious outcome.
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Nope, and I can't say that I even know what one is! I think I rode a horse once in Nevada as a kid, might have been a donkey. Originally Posted by Longhair View post And it's not symmetrical.